Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Re: Windows 8 Pro MCE x64
DisplayFusion Beta 11
Classic Shell Classic Start /Menu 3.6.8
Immediately upon installation of Beta 11 Classic Start / Menu failed to display on the DF Taskbar. Failed on restart. DF Settings indicates that Classic Shell is 'detected'.
As soon as I reverted to Beta 10, the Classic Start / Menu was restored and functions normally.
Good luck guys!
Strange! It seems to work ok for me with Beta 11. I'll test this out and see what I can find.
Thanks!
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Keith: thanks for checking this out. I was going to re-download Beta 11 and see if installing the new exe made a difference (it's been known to happen!) — but see 11 has been withdrawn for other reasons, so I'll wait for Beta 12 next week and get back to you then.
All good wishes ~ Hans-Peter
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Keith: Thank you for your prompt response and trouble-shooting instructions.
It's the custom button!
On two Windows 8 machines the native 'Aero Button' displays on the DF Taskbar with Beta 12. A custom button fails.
Something must have changed since Beta 10, as the same custom button on both systems displayed correctly on that version. I have attached the button PNG file in case you would like to test it and have the time.
All good wishes ~ Hans-Peter
• Attachment [protected]: WinAeroButton.png [4,439 bytes]
Jul 16, 2013 (modified Jul 16, 2013)
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Just tested with that custom button and it still works for me. Are you running a custom Windows theme at all, maybe using WindowBlinds?
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Keith: Many thanks for looking deeper into this problem.
First, to answer your immediate questions: I am running Windows 8 default theme but with my own Desktop backgrounds, one image for the main monitor in landscape mode and another image for the secondary monitor in portrait. However, please see below for a new piece of information. And, no I'm not running Windows Blinds 8 (I've read their forum …!).
I am attaching the debug log, as you instructed me earlier. At 05:42 pm it records a start with the native Classic Menu 'Aero Button' button that displays correctly on the DisplayFusion Taskbar. Then at 05:44 and 05:48 pm it records starts with my custom button ["C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Skins\WinAeroButton.png"] that fails to display at all.
BUT, during this testing, I noticed an additional symptom I should have reported to you earlier and which may make the situation clear to you: with the custom button selected in Classic Menu, DisplayFusion also fails to display the seven shortcuts I have specified for the DF taskbar. Once I revert to the native Aero Button and reload DisplayFusion, those seven shortcuts display again normally, along with the Aero Button. Up to Beta 10 these shortcuts also always displayed correctly along with the custom Classic Menu custom button.
Very grateful for you patience and persistence!
Hans-Peter
• Attachment [protected]: Hans-Peter_DisplayFusion_17 July 2013.log [815,635 bytes]
Interesting! I don't see anything weird in the log unfortunately. Could you backup your Classic Shell settings, as well as your DF settings, and attach them? I'd like to try restoring those on a test machine here to see if that will make the problem show up.
Thanks!
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Twice interesting — because the problem is occurring on two Windows 8 Pro systems on separatemachines with rather different hardware! [x9650 versus mildly overclocked i7 2700K + Radeon Silent 6600 versus Radeon Silent 4800].
However, they are setup fundamentally the same and are running almost all the same software.
Classic Shell settings XML file and DF settings reg file attached as requested.
Keith, your time and effort on this weirdness are very much appreciated!
Hans-Peter
• Attachment [protected]: Hans-Peter_Classic Menu Settings_18July2013.xml [8,919 bytes]
• Attachment [protected]: Hans-Peter_DisplayFusion Backup_18July2013.reg [86,912 bytes]
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Maybe some progress, but the weirdness — in my mind — deepens: the following with Beta 13 installed.
I used Windows' 'System Configuration' to do several Diagnostic startups. Then I loaded much of the normal boot inventory manually but in different sequences. Without Classic Menu running, DF loaded and displayed the default Windows Eight logo button on the DF Taskbar with all my shortcuts + normal operation.
However, with all startup items disabled and CM & DF launched manually, the custom button + shortcuts still failed to display.
At this point I was ready to give up. Then came the 'Eureka moment': I changed the position of the DF taskbar from Left to Bottom. And there was the custom CM button + shortcuts. Same story with Top position.
Position selection > Left, Right, and Automatic: no dice. Top and Bottom: everything displays and works.
As an extra check I rotated the secondary monitor back to landscape mode and repeated all these settings with identical results.
Provisional conclusion: after Beta 10 the failure of the CM custom button to display — on my two Windows 8 systems — is a function of the position of the DF Taskbar.
Over to you, Keith …!
P.S. During the period of Betas 11–13 no new stuff was added to my systems and no updates to boot items; in particular no new AMD Catalyst suite.
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Very good news — I deeply appreciate your persistence and patience, Keith; all good wishes!
Hans-Peter
Hans-Peter_in_DC
95 discussion posts
Keith: Many thanks for fixing this in Beta's 14 & 15!