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Kensation
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Hello,

I am currently using the trial version of DF Pro (I hope to purchase it soon if I can figure out this issue), and I am having an issue where the windows on my second monitor will maximize to the full resolution of the screen. The problem is that the taskbar stays on top of the window, and I cannot get the window (other than resizing it manually) to only maximize to the top of the taskbar. When the window is maximized fully, if I am on a webpage with a right hand scroll bar, I cannot get to the bottom of the scroll bar. The only way to get around this is if I close out of DF Pro, and then re-open it again. Which gets frustrating, as this happens multiple times a day. I am using Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit. And the tower is a Dell Precision 490. The graphics card I am using is NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285. I have attached a screen shot of what I am talking about. As you can see the window is fully maximized behind the taskbar.
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Oct 28, 2010  • #1
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Kensation
13 discussion posts
Is this something that anyone else is experiencing?

-Kenny
Oct 29, 2010  • #2
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Kevin F.
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Just tested, and its fine for me. Wait for Jon to get in here he will help. Do you have anything that may be modifying the situation?

Also, does this happen with any other programs? chrome known to be a slightly more complex program, however I DID test with chrome, and CNR.
Oct 30, 2010  • #3
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Kensation: Does this happen with all windows, or mostly Google Chrome? Does this happen all the time, or just occasionally? Can you give the new beta a try and see if it helps:
http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Oct 31, 2010  • #4
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Kensation
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It happens multiple times everyday that I use the program. And It happens with all windows, not just Google Chrome. I will try the beta, and see if that fixed the issue.

Thanks,

Kenny
Nov 1, 2010  • #5
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Kensation
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I have been using the beta for roughly 3-4hrs, and it just happened. It is happening with all windows that I maximize on my second monitor.
Nov 1, 2010  • #6
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Kensation
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I think I may have found the issue. It is something to do with the Google sidebar that I am running. If I change the setting on the Google Toolbar to "Always on top" when the second monitor taskbar is having the issue, it fixes it. Is DF Pro possibly using the same resources behind the scenes as the Google sidebar?
Nov 2, 2010  • #7
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
What version of the Google Sidebar are you using, and what Windows service pack level are you at? Win XP SP3 I'm assuming? I'm trying to replicate this issue here. :)
Nov 9, 2010  • #8
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Kensation
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Google Desktop 5.9.1005.12335-en-pb

Windows 7 Professional 64bit.
Nov 9, 2010  • #9
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Kensation
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Update:

After purchasing the full version of DF Pro and continuing to us it, I have come to the conclusion that Google Desktop/Sidebar is not the culprit (Toggling between enabling/disabling the "always on top" preference on Google Desktop/Sidebar seems to also fix the issue with DF Pro, but I don't think that it is causing this issue). It seems that whenever I lock my computer and then log back in, the window(s) that I am using seem the maximize completely behind the second monitor task bar. Hopefully that sheds some more light as to why this issue is happening.

Regards,

Kenny
Nov 23, 2010  • #10
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the extra information. Does the desktop lock/unlock always cause the issue, or just sometimes? Does it matter if the Google sidebar is running (or marked as always-on-top) when this happens after an unlock? I'm just trying to work out if it is the combination of the Google sidebar combined with locking/unlocking the desktop.
Dec 11, 2010  • #11
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Kensation
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Hi Jon,

I have tried just about everything. I even uninstalled Google Desktop/Sidebar, and it the issue still persists. So I don't even know if Google Sidebar has anything to do with the issue, other than it maybe taps into some of the sale files/processes (no clue really) that the taskbar uses, and when I enable "always on top" it works for the taskbar also. I will keep on trying to figure this out as well.

Thanks!

-Kenny
Dec 15, 2010  • #12
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Kensation
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UPDATE: As of today (01/11/2011), I can no longer toggle the always on top feature of the Google Sidebar to fix the issue after logging back into my computer from it being locked. I have to actually exit out of DF, and then restart the program. I am still running the same version of Google Sidebar and whatever the latest beta of DF Pro is.

This work-around is working again. Not sure what was going on.

-Kenny
Jan 11, 2011  • #13
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it's working again, thanks for following-up. :)
Jan 20, 2011  • #14
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Kensation
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Just to clarify. The work-around that I discovered (by toggling the "Always on Top" feature of the Google sidebar off and then back on) is working again. I am still having issues with the window maximizing the entire size of the screen and going behind the taskbar upon login from the computer being locked. :|
Jan 20, 2011  • #15
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Oops, sorry, I must have mis-read that. Do you have any other desktop software running (like Fences, or any other virtual desktop/taskbar modification software)?
Jan 20, 2011  • #16
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Kensation
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Nope. DF Pro is the only type of software like that, that is running.
Jan 20, 2011  • #17
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
This seems to be an issue that affects some people, but I can't figure it out at all. I've been working on it for months and haven't been able to reproduce it on any of my test machines. I suspect it's a combination of software that is causing the issue, and as much as I hate to do this, I'm going to mark this topic as complete unless I can figure something out in the future. :)
Feb 28, 2011  • #18
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Kensation
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I did some research online, and it may be a Windows 7 issue. I'm not 100% sure though. Oh well. Thanks for your help.
Mar 1, 2011  • #19
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
If you find out anything more on this issue, I would love to know about it in the future. :)
Mar 14, 2011  • #20
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Kensation
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I just wanted to post an update. I just realized that DF is no longer acting this way. I suspect that it was a Windows issue somewhere, and an update fixed it. But I suppose it could've been a DF update as well. I am not sure. I don't really remember when I noticed it for the first time, so I can't give any other specific info. But it has been resolved!
Apr 21, 2011  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Glad to hear it Kenny, thanks for the follow-up!
Apr 21, 2011  • #22
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kyle porter1
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I am experiencing the exact same issues. Doesn't happen all the time, but is very annoying when it does. I however am not running the google toobar. I did notice that changing the position from auto to bottom and then back fixed it. Probably only temporarily though. I will let you know more the next time it happens. I am also going to try just leaving it on bottom the next time (as I never move my toolbar).
Aug 17, 2011  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Which version of DisplayFusion are you running? If you're not already on 3.4.0 Beta 12, can you try it out? You can download it here:

http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Aug 17, 2011  • #24
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kyle porter1
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I am running beta 12. So the issue returned and I decided to set taskbar position to bottom. It fixed the issue for the moment, but it still returned later. Selecting 'bottom' again did temporarily fix the issue again.
Aug 22, 2011  • #25
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok thanks Kyle. Would you be able to email me a list of all the software you have installed on your system? Maybe a screenshot(s) of your Add/Remove Programs list?

It seems like it might be related to some other software running in the background, so I'm trying to compile a list of similar programs that anyone with this issue has installed.

You can email it to support@displayfusion.com so that it's not posted publicly in the Discussion.

Thanks!
Aug 22, 2011  • #26
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kyle porter1
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Keith. I can definitely do that. I have however figured out when it messes up. Anytime my computer goes to the lock screen the issue is there when I unlock. I have tried all sorts of variations of screensavers no screensavers and that didn't seem to matter. If however I disable the "require password after xxxx" in either Display Fusion or windows itself, the issue does not occur. It only occurs when my computer is locked (which I do habitually as I harass anyone in my office who doesn't. And god forbid I should forget, I hate to imagine the payback carnage that my co-workers would reek on my mouse settings, wallpapers :) ).
Aug 23, 2011  • #27
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Haha, for sure. I always make sure mine is locked too. A few other people have mentioned it happening when locking and unlocking, but I still can't get it to happen :(

Are you running Windows 7?
Aug 23, 2011  • #28
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kyle porter1
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I found it!!! Damn me for being OCD. I have spent more time looking at this, than I would have spent just manually fixing it... but then I wouldn't have been happy with myself :). So somewhere along the way I got Nvidia's "nView" installed. I didn't have a single option enabled within nView, but nView itself was enabled. To fix it, either a) uninstall nView Desktop Manager or b) Open nView Desktop Manager and then click Disable and OK.
Aug 23, 2011  • #29
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Interesting! I'll follow up with some of the other customers that were running into the same issue and see if they have the nView software installed and enabled.

Thanks for the tip! I'll report back in a bit.
Aug 23, 2011  • #30
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kenny buckles
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I was the one who started this thread. I just wanted to chime in, and say that I also have the nView software on my computer. I have not been experiencing this issue for some time now. I don't remember exactly when the issue stopped, but I did just look at the nView control panel, and mine is disabled. So it sounds like that may have been my issue as well, and I inadvertently disabled nView without knowing it was the culprit.
Aug 23, 2011  • #31
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Good to hear! I'm still waiting to hear back from the other customers that were running into this issue as well.
Aug 23, 2011  • #32
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I haven't heard back from the other customers yet, but I think it's safe to assume that the nView Desktop Manager was causing the issues. If I have any more updates I'll be sure to post them.

Thanks again guys for helping track this down!
Aug 31, 2011  • #33
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Chunku Kang
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I have the same problem.

In my case, I don't have "nView" installed on my laptop, but using nVidia graphic card.

After reading your discussion, I tried to make google desktop "sidebar" on the primary monitor of my laptop to move to "deskbar" position. The problem has disappeared. So, my guess is this problem is related with Google desktop program, especially its position of "sidebar"
I am looking forward to seeing your solution.
Thanks

CK
Sep 26, 2011  • #34
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Interesting! I could never reproduce it with the Google Desktop Sidebar, but I'll definitely try testing it out again. What version of Windows, Google Desktop, and DisplayFusion are you running?

Thanks!
Sep 26, 2011  • #35
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kyle porter1
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In no way trying to downplay kang's issue, but worth noting Google is killing off desktop.
Sep 26, 2011  • #36
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Chunku Kang
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I'm using windows 7, Displayfusion 3.3.1, and most recent Google desktop.
Thank you.

CK
Sep 27, 2011  • #37
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok thanks, does the same problem occur with the latest DisplayFusion beta?

http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Sep 27, 2011  • #38
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Chunku Kang
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I've installed the beta version after uninstalling the previous one, but the problem does not go away.
Thank you for your help.

CK
Sep 27, 2011  • #39
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you post the info from the Troubleshooting tab in the latest DisplayFusion beta. If you prefer, you can email it to me at support@displayfusion.com

Thanks!
Sep 28, 2011  • #40
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
In an effort to cleanup the DisplayFusion Discussions, this topic is being marked as Complete as it hasn't received a response for more than 30 days. If you're still having trouble and would like some help, just let me know!

Thanks!
Nov 29, 2011  • #41
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Mike LeSauvage
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Sorry to hit you with it, this one is still here...

I am using full version 3.4.1. I noticed the issue after the last update, but don't recall if it was coincident with the update. I have a very clean install (computer is a month old), don't use Google Desktop or any other such software. DisplayFusion is the only software I have that I would say *interferes* with normal Windows 7 functions. I had one gadget installed for Windows Desktop that I removed well before this issue appeared.

For me, the issue existed on my left and right, but not center (which is my main) monitors.

The workaround above of choosing align bottom rather than auto for the taskbar, and then putting it back to auto, fixed the problem. I did this only on the right taskbar (by right-clicking) but it fixed it on both.

I note above the talk about nVidia cards - I have AMD: dual 6950s in Crossfire. I note that the last driver install from AMD came with a feature called Hydragrid, which appears to be a multiple desktop manager of some sort. Mine is not enabled.

Good luck!
Jan 7, 2012  • #42
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Is this issue happening with specific applications, or all applications?

Thanks!
Jan 9, 2012  • #43
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Mike LeSauvage
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All applications. Firefox, Chrome, OpenOffice, explorer windows... Didn't notice any exceptions.

Mike
Jan 10, 2012  • #44
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, when the issue occurs again, could you do the following?
  • Take a screenshot of the screen that has the issue (or all screens is fine too).
  • Post or email (support@displayfusion.com) the info from the Troubleshooting tab. Please make sure the info is copied from the Troubleshooting tab while you have a program that's maximized behind the taskbar.
Thanks!
Jan 12, 2012 (modified Jan 12, 2012)  • #45
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Mike LeSauvage
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Happened again today. Picture and troubleshooting information emailed.
Jan 19, 2012  • #46
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I've received the info. Unfortunately this has been an issue for a couple of other customers in the past that has been impossible for us to track down the cause :(

We'll review the info you sent over, and I'll be sure to post an update as soon as I have one.

Thanks!
Jan 19, 2012  • #47
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Good news! We think we've figured out the issue. We're going to make some changes for 3.5 Beta 2 and I'll let you know when it's available to test.

Thanks!
Jan 25, 2012  • #48
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Mike LeSauvage
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That's great! Looking forward to it.
Jan 26, 2012  • #49
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just wanted to follow-up and let you guys know that this issue should be all fixed up in the latest beta version of DisplayFusion.

http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/

Thanks!
Feb 16, 2012  • #50
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David Wohlberg
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I know this thread is old, but I am running Windows 7 x64 with DisplayFusion Pro v5.0 and I have problems where the Windows maximize behind the task bar. IE, FireFox, Windows Explorer, Excel, you name it, they all maximize behind the taskbar. You can see it in the screenshots of IE and Excel that I've attached.
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Mar 26, 2013  • #51
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David Wohlberg
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Hmm, please disregard above message, a reboot (was forced for other reasons) appeared to have fixed the problem - though I'm sure simply closing the displayfusion taskbar and re-opening it would have fixed it the same.
Mar 26, 2013  • #52
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
This is an intermittent issue that we're still trying to reproduce here unfortunately. As soon as we can reproduce it and fix it up, will definitely follow-up here to let everyone know.

In the meantime, you can resolve it temporarily when it occurs by doing the following, which will force the taskbar to reload and Windows to reserve the screen space for it again:

Right-click the taskbar and navigate to Multi-Monitor Taskbar > Position > Automatic (or whichever one you have selected)

Thanks!
Mar 27, 2013  • #53
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Matthew Kocsis
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Thanks Keith, that fixed my setup today.

I'll keep an eye out for exactly what causes this, but here's what I did:

Windows 7 Enterprise, 64bit, SP1
DisplayFusion 5.0

-I locked my workstation (Win-L)
-Screen Saver kicked in (10 minutes)
-Monitor 2 and 3, all applications would maximize under the taskbars (both a right and a left taskbar). Monitor 1 has the default windows taskbar.

Resetting the taskbar position cleared it up.
Jun 18, 2013  • #54
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, thanks Matthew! It does seem like it happens when the workstation has been locked for some time, but we still haven't been able to reproduce it consistently :(

We'll definitely post an update when we're able to get this fixed up though. Thanks!
Jun 18, 2013  • #55
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've just released DisplayFusion 5.1 Beta 8 (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/), and this issue should be all fixed up. Please let us know if not :)

Thanks!
Jun 26, 2013  • #56
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senkrad
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I know this is a closed issue, but I'd like to mention I was having the same problem and figured out how to fix it, in case it's happening to anyone else.

Windows 7 Enterprise, x64
DisplayFusion Pro v6.0

I use Matrox PowerDesk to split my docked laptop (ThinkPad T410) to 3 monitors (one plugged into the DVI-D on the dock, and two plugged into the a Matrox DualHead2Go DE, which is plugged into the VGA on the Dock). The graphics card is an nVidia NVS 3100M and only allows you to have two output displays at a time (the DualHead2Go works by utilizing the ONE VGA output and spreading it over 2 DVI-D outputs).

The issue was fixed in the Matrox PowerDesk software under Desktop Management -> Maximize windows.

It had been set to "In same cell current window" and changing it to "In current Windows display (Windows default)" solved the issue.
Jul 1, 2014  • #57
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for posting that solution, senkrad!
Jul 2, 2014  • #58
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