Aegis
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I gave DF a try through just to see what it has to offer (very shocked, TBH, that there aren't many window managers for a Windows 7 x64 rig out there)
Suffice it to say, I'm VERY impressed. I'm on the verge of a purchase, but 2 things I'm rather interested in might be missing (or maybe I'm not seeing them, as that there are a plethora of options in DF!)
[size=18pt]MY SETUP[/size]
I have 2 monitors:
Monitor 1 : 1920x1200
Monitor 2 : 1600x1200
Usually, for me, Monitor 2 is powered down when not in use rather than left on all day.
[size=18pt][color=blue]SUGGESTION 1: MONITOR LOCKING[/color][/size]
Problem: When Monitor 2 is off, it's annoying that the cursor can wander off Monitor 1 and into Monitor 2's desktop space, leaving me without a visible cursor. It takes flailing around to finally get the cursor seen on Monitor 1.
Suggestion: Add toggling functionality (would be even better if it remembered the last mode you had it set to between restarts and started in that mode) where you can enable/disable the mouse being able to move to particular monitors. This would allow me to power down a monitor, turn on "MONITOR 1 LOCK" (to lock the cursor to monitor 1) and then see that my mouse could only move around in monitor 1. If I turn on Monitor 2, I can toggle off MONITOR 1 LOCK to allow my cursor to go over to Monitor 2. For obvious reasons, it would not allow both monitors to be locked at the same time.
[size=18pt][color=blue]SUGGESTION 2: MODAL CENTERING TO PARENT APPLICATION[/color][/size]
Problem: Though a program may run in a monitor, many times it will open modals in other monitors. This is very annoying if you're running an app in Monitor 1 and Monitor 2 is off, but the program opens a modal on Monitor 2 nonetheless, requiring you to power on Monitor 2 just to move the modal back over. If you move the app from Monitor 1 to Monitor 2, many times the modals that were opening on Monitor 1 will continue to do so even though the application is now on Monitor 2.
Suggestion: Add a feature which allows you to REPOSITION MODAL ON: and they can select from:
Move to Application's Display (Moves modal to display the parent app is in)
Move to Cursor's Display (Moves modal to display the cursor is currently in)
Move to Monitor1 (Moves modal to monitor 1)
Move to Monitor2 (Moves modal to monitor 2)
As well as an option you can turn on/off which, after moving the modal, centers is to the display:
[X] Center Modal after moving
Preferably, I'd rather this feature function globally, but if you wanted to enable/disable it for a user-controlled list of applications, that'd be fine (so it affects only certain apps that seem to have the issue)
That's it, really. I couldn't think of anything else, because, well, DF pretty much already does it! lol. Again, great app!
Kevin F.
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1: Already in. togglable via hotkey or titlebar icon.
2. Also working in some form, there are hotkeys to move windows to other monitors, as long as the modal is the current window when it opens, you can hotkey it back without seeing it.
though I would like for #2 to be made much nicer, having to do that every time winrar opens is getting annoying.
Make sure to look through the betas for features you might be looking for, theres a hefty slew of new ones in each update.
And as I tell everyone else thats "on the verge", theres not only a trial version, but most useful ideas will be aded if posted, and if they aren't either they aren't useful or just plain impossible, so you might as well go buy it. DF is by leagues the best out there, both price and quality wise.
Aegis
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Yeah I actually installed the trial before I made this post, so I got to use it and see what it had to offer (which was why I was so impressed)
Do you mind in showing me where the monitor locking feature is? I guess I over looked it. I had to turn off the titlebar functions because on the programs in question, they were interfering with the actual application's buttons.
Kind of the same deal with modal centering. I found the hotkey to move applications from display to display, but I just wanted the active modal window to be centered automatically without the need to constantly having to press a hotkey.
For those who don't need those 2 suggestions, DF seems to already have everything else they could want, and is well worth the money; but I've been looking around for any program than can do those 2 things specifically (and there are none), so if/when DF does do them, then on the verge I shall be no more.
Yep you could definitely do that on the Compatibility tab.
Thanks Kevin!
Aegis
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Thanks for the feedback Keith.
My bad, I didn't install the Beta, but I'm glad to see it has mouse locking. Wow, this little app has just about everything. I see you have an RSS feed on the site, so I'll subscribe to it (hopefully it has news about beta features as well as latest stable builds) I'm VERY eager to see modal centering. Can't wait to see if it gets added down the line. It's such a small feature but with SUCH A HUGE end result. I'm very surprised Windows didn't come with that kind of functionality built in.
As for the app that was having issues with the title bar buttons (I saw that offset you spoke about-nice touch, btw) but as I recall, the buttons VISUALLY on the titlebar were not where their hit areas were. I would mouse over an area that has no button, and it would register a mouse over on one of the buttons. Kinda funky, but again, it only had issues on 1 app.
The program in question that gives me the most grief is Adobe Photoshop CS5. I use this app like 2-4+ hours a day (freaking LOVE it) and maximizing my workspace efficiency is top priority to me.
Kevin F.
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Well in that same vein you can just turn off the titlebar buttons for that one program. Or make a bug report.
I'd make a bug report. It will be relayed to you whether or not it can be fixed.
Interesting! I've just tested 3.3.1 Beta 14 with Photoshop CS5 and the TitleBar buttons seem to be ok. I did need to adjust the offset a bit, but as for the mouseovers, everything seems to work as expected for me.
Could you update to 3.3.1 Beta 14 and try it out again? If they are still showing the same behaviour, please take a screenshot that includes the mouse cursor so that I can see where the cursor is when the button mouseovers are being triggered.
Thanks!
Aegis
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Keith. The copy I used was NOT the beta. I'm glad to hear that it does address PS CS5 though. Would also give me a chance to try out the monitor locking it has. If you want, I'll reinstall the trial (beta this time) and see if everything's good to go.
Aegis
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Well, Keith, I installed the Beta, and it says that I must upgrade to the PRO version in order to use monitor locking, so I can't test that for you, sorry.
No problem, you can request a trial key to test out the Pro version from here if you like: http://www.displayfusion.com/Trial/
Aegis
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OK, I requested a key. Will try it out once it comes in and let you know, thanks.
Aegis
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This isn't an automated process.... is it?
Aegis
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I'm guess this isn't a process where you request one online and then get it immediately, right? It requires intervention on your side first, no? Cause I'm still waiting on the code (not to sound rude/impatient, just looking for clarification)
It should be automatic. Could you send me the email address you used to request the trial key? Send it to support@binaryfortress.com or PM me.
Thanks!
Aegis
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Looks like the license came. When I get home I will try it out and let you guys know. Thanks for the help.
No problem! Let me know if I can help with anything else.
Thanks!
Aegis
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OK, tested it out at home.
With Monitor 2 off, it doesn't seem to work. Cursor moves to Monitor 2's desktop and doesn't stay locked in Monitor 1.
With the Monitor 2 powered ON, it DOES work. It actually moves to Monitor 2, but doesn't go more than 1 cursor's length in (which is fine by me).
I take it there's no way to determine when a monitor is powered off eh? Odd that Windows would extend the current desktop to one that doesn't "exist" when the Monitor is powered off.
Yeah, unfortunately we can't detect when monitors are powered off as DisplayFusion relies on Windows to tell it what monitors are connected and enabled. Windows definitely has issues detecting whether certain monitors are connected or not. I find that it's usually better when the monitor is connected through a digital connection like DVI, DisplayPort, or HDMI.
Aegis
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Well.
My big concern was turning on the Cintiq and leaving the same BG on all day long if I wasn't gonna use it. But I guess I could use the per-screen screensaver feature and then monitor lock the mouse since both are on. That would solve that issue, except I'd still need the modal centering feature.
Awesome, glad to hear it!
Thanks for the kind words!