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Gary Brendemuehl
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I have a group of windows 7 systems without internet access (for security purposes) and it takes any of the configuration screens about 20 seconds before they display. Even starting task manager is slow to start ( again 15-20 seconds) when starting from the app, but it displays immediately when starting from the task bar. Check for updates is disabled. The actual functions don't have any response issues. Is the lack of an internet connection the issue or something else?
Mar 4, 2013  • #1
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I believe this is due to the code signing certificate needing to be checked against Microsoft's servers to make sure it hasn't been revoked. However, that's definitely a usability issue, so I'm going to add this to our list and we'll investigate further to find out if there's anything we can do to work around it.

Thanks!
Mar 5, 2013  • #2
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Gary Brendemuehl
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Keith

Thanks for investigating. Please post the outcome. We are going to purchase the product for a number of users on systems without internet access. The drawback is that when they login it's almost 30 seconds until DisplayFusion is functioning.
Apr 1, 2013  • #3
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Sounds great Gary! We haven't had a chance to look into it in-depth yet, but we'll keep you posted when we do.

Thanks!
Apr 1, 2013  • #4
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I've just re-tested this issue on a Windows 7 machine with no Internet connection, but before I disconnected the network, I had done all Windows Updates to date, and it seems to be fine now.

I'm wondering if maybe the root certificates and/or CRLs on your Internet-less systems are out of date and causing the slow launch. Could you try installing the latest Windows 7 Root Certificate Update (December 2012)? I've posted both the 32-bit and 64-bit installers on our server:

x86 (32-bit): http://www.binaryfortress.com/Files/X86-all-rootsupd_87c7568163e58b9abffed0157a63349962ddb9f6.exe

x64 (64-bit): http://www.binaryfortress.com/Files/AMD64-all-rootsupd_87c7568163e58b9abffed0157a63349962ddb9f6.exe

Thanks!
Apr 6, 2013  • #5
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Gary Brendemuehl
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I haven't had a chance to check on the root certificates, but have some additional information.

3 desktops have the problem and 1 it works correctly. All desktops are built with the same image. On the ones with slow startup, magnify.exe also starts slowly (the same 20-30 seconds).

Using ProcessMonitor, it looks like the process starts, exits, and then 18 seconds later restarts,. This sequence happens for both DisplayFusion and Magnifier
Apr 9, 2013  • #6
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Interesting! I don't think I ever asked you, which version of DisplayFusion are you running on the machines?
Apr 10, 2013  • #7
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Gary Brendemuehl
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I downloaded 5.0 (MSI Installer)
Apr 10, 2013  • #8
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Gary Brendemuehl
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I have attached the output from process monitor. Please note the delays:

Line 765 - Process exist and 19 seconds later a Process start

Line 7494 - A Thread Create and 10 seconds later a RegQueryKey

Line 7611 - A RegCloseKey and 5 seconds later a RegQueryKey

Line 7956 - A RegCloseKey and 2.5 seconds later a RegQueryKey
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Apr 10, 2013  • #9
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Gary Brendemuehl
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I install the root certificate and rebooted, but it didn't fix the issue.
Apr 10, 2013  • #10
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, it must not update the revocation lists then :(

We're going to investigate this a bit further here, and I'll keep you posted. We'll hopefully have something new for you to test out soon.

Thanks!
Apr 10, 2013  • #11
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Just a quick update on this: We've been able to reproduce it here, and we should have it all fixed up for 5.1 Beta 3. I'll let you know when it's available to try out.

Thanks!
Apr 13, 2013  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
DisplayFusion 5.1 Beta 3 (http://www.displayfusion.com/Download/Beta/) is now available, and this issue should be all fixed up. Could you give it a try when you have a chance?

Thanks!
Apr 14, 2013  • #13
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Gary Brendemuehl
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Keith

5.1 Beta 3 fixed the delay with the configuration screens coming up. However, I do still have the strange delay at startup where the process starts, exits and then restarts 19 seconds later.
Apr 15, 2013  • #14
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Gary Brendemuehl
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Found the Problem!

In control Panel > internet options, advanced tab, security section, clear the "check for publishers certificate revocation option".
Apr 15, 2013  • #15
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok, excellent! Glad to hear you were able to sort it out. I wasn't aware of that setting, but I'll make a note of it in case anyone else runs into this issue in the future.

Thanks!
Apr 16, 2013  • #16
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