Hello,

I'm having an issue when trying to switch between programs in Windows 10. The problem is that I'll have multiple windows on a monitor and when switching between them, the window isn't always brought to the front and will stay behind the previously focused window.

An example of this is I will have Skype focused. I go to the task bar and click on Chrome. Chrome will indicate that it has focus by having the opaque bar beneath the program on the task bar. But, Chrome will stay behind Skype and it will not bring it to the front.

It is even worse with Windows Explorer. It rarely will let other programs come to the front. But, Skype will sometimes let it happen.

Here's what I've noticed in trying to reproduce this issue:
- Non-Microsoft programs tend to have the biggest problem with staying behind other programs even after being given focus.
- Microsoft programs rarely get stuck behind other programs (Windows Explorer, Skype, etc.)
- The same program can get stuck behind itself (i.e. a program that has a separate settings window that doesn't force focus from the main program)
- If your current focus on a program is a text box, it seems to work better when trying to come to the front (i.e. when submitting this thread, I was able to successfully go back and forth between Chrome and Skype 95% of the time).
- The speed of window switching does not effect the outcome (clicking on the task bar item immediately vs hovering over it for 5+ seconds)
- Once the window has focus, you can move it around using WIN+Arrow Keys and it stays behind the other window. It can even be moved to a separate monitor and then back to the previous one and still be behind it.
- Hovering over the task bar item and selecting the window from the preview pane has the same results. You can hover over the preview to show the window. But, as soon as you click it, the previous window stays on top.
- This happens on ALL monitors and ALL task bars.
- It has the same result when selecting a window from one monitor and moving it to another monitor using WIN + Arrow Keys.
- Restarting DisplayFusion fixes the issues mentioned above. But, only for a short period of time.
- Sometimes you can click back and forth to get the other window to come to the front (if it works, it would only have to be done a few times, 2 max).

I'm on the very latest Beta build.

I was going to post about this problem too. I have updated to the beta, and have enabled both settings, hopefully it works, will report back with the results. Thank you.

Hello,

I'm still having this same issue. For example, I have two windows on my secondary monitor. When I alt+tab, I see it switch on the taskbar, but the window doesn't actually change. Sometimes I even have to minimize the window to see anything.

I do have the two changes mentioned earlier and I'm on Steam's V. 9.2.4. Would running DisplayFushion as Administrator help?

Thanks!

Indeed (which fits better for widescreen). But sadly the fix from earlier doesn't help. Is there another method now?

Thanks for the response!

I don't know if I can help it here Keith.

Main screen right: W taskbar -> Right vertical
Secondary Left: DF taskbar -> Left vertical
(so I have no taskars on the monitor junction sides)

Sometime a window stay back even if active...
... I take it from secondary and slide it on main ...
... just to get a surprizing movement behind existing windows in main monitor.
It's fun and don't happens frequently...

B U T

there is no way to bring it in front. Even tried Taskmanager "bring to front option"

(WORKAROUND: you click twice on the taskbar's program icon - one to minimize, the other bring to front)

Alain

Ps: to move between monitor I usually drag them or use DF button, discovered last week Double Central Click on titlebar.
It happened to stay back in : dragging, DF button ... not yet got it on DCC

And... here we go.
It just happened again and got it with the phone.

Sorry for video bad quality ... if not clear enough what actions I did, just ask.

BTW: Double Central Click doesn't change the situation, as dragging or using button.

Regards

Alain

Not sure. Next time it happens, I'll try to get a recording.

it can happen 3 time in a day or once in a week.....
.... and is not a foreseeable consequence of actions or of a situation.

I just call back a window to main, and it stay in the back.

Today, for the first time,
---> I got one on main monitor staying "last under" calling it back from minimized.
No way to make it top ) ... Had to move all windows staying in front of it to secondary...

... you never realize how many windows you have active... unless you have to move all of them!
( only >>> 8 multitab browser's + 2 monitoring + 1 explorer + a dialog )
I was in need of the information, located in that minimized window, to fill in the dialog !!

Murphy laws

Alain

OK, thanks for the leed.

I got a sensible suggestion in one of the forums:
"When the situation with windows on top arises again ,,,....,,, start quitting/killing all tools. Be sensitive when it will STOP happening. This way I've caught Remote Desktop and Team Viewer when they were doing their strange side effects."

I will do just that.

Lot of small utilities running around:
Some I remember, some not and some are not even present in TaskManager because they run as service.
I post some that will help me and hopefully we can check if there is a match!

Shortlist:
---------------------
Utilities starting without any control

. TaskbarActivate (avoid Taskbars gettting stuck - 11 years) [behind W taskbar]
. Windows Borderless Gaming (recent - after noticing issue - 6 weeks)
. FB-Traffic (FritzBox routers monitoring - from May) [Window visible 2nd monitor]
. FoxitReader ( PDF - 8 years)
- Discord ( not always running)
. GetRight (downloader - 2001).
. Bluetooth monitor - NoName (2 months)
- Netgear Genie (Net/router monitor - end May)
. WarGaming Update (updater - 1 year)
. FBackup7 (automatic backup system - 1 year)
- NetBalancer 9. (connection monitor - 3 months) [Window visible 2nd monitor]
. WinPatrol Plus (System safety control - 2004)
. EarTrumpet (volume manager - 3 years)
. Extreme Copy (Filexplorer add-on - 8 years)
, Classic Shell (many years)
. DF
. DropBox
. HuaweiSuite
-- TeamViewer Service
. IOBitUninstaller

--------
Active programs (allways running)

PingPlotter (Netcheck grapher - 12 years)
ThunderBird (mails manager - 10 years)
PaleMoon (FF like browser - 12 years)
OSK.exe (virtual KB - managed by WBG #2 - few months)

Alain

OOoooooohhhh !

TeamViewer Service !!! (as was noted by mentioned user !)

I'll stop that right now and report back if nothing happens in ONE WEEK.

Alain

Sorry to be late...
... building a new PC after 10 years..
As the previous was at that time,
and it that lasted till now, still giving silent good performance,
it will be a monster. (i7-8700k, gtx1080, liquid cooler .... and a "Ferrari" case)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/btbz32d5i1bqori/IMG-20180810-WA0021.jpeg?dl=0

Reporting back :
>>> No more active windows under.
_______________________________________________
Keith BTW: may I re-activate DF on my new pc?

!!! it will use the same monitors !!!



Alain

Oh an actual fix for this issue finally?!

I mentioned this months ago and got nowhere...

Licenses are per user, not per computer, says so right on the pro purchase page~!

hmmm....
Display Fusion works on monitors.....

...... and the monitors will be the same !



Alain

I also use TeamViewer, but this issue didn't start until vertical DF taskbar was made top-most
I also have NetMeter window staying always top-most and whenever I play a video in PotPlayer, it's window also stays top-most.

Why vertical taskbars act differently then horizontal?
I mean the horizontal taskbar is top-most, but it seems people started having issue after vertical taskbar got top-most treatment...

Same issue here. Display fusion 10 beta 7. Windows 10. Taskbar screen 1: left. Screen 2 is the main screen with Windows task bar. As tools, there is Chrome, Firefox, IntelliJ, and Skype opened.

Partially. Mostly it works. I just had the issue with Microsoft Teams. Not that well reproducible though.

Directly after activating the multi-monitor-taskbar, it did not work. I had to open DisplayFusion settings, check the above two settings (which were set as proposed), close the settings and then it worked.

Note that is a known issue as described at https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/windows-10-known-issues/?ID=e71e1f5e-9e07-4f7d-b179-22253db2c30f.
Proposal: DisplayFusion should set the "SetWindowPos: Disallow TopMost Calls" option in Settings when starting the first time and seeing it runs on Windows 10.

https://www.displayfusion.com/Discussions/View/windows-10-known-issues/?ID=e71e1f5e-9e07-4f7d-b179-22253db2c30f
This workaround is confusing. Which option do we "enable":

TopMost will be allowed if requested
TopMost will never be allowed